The non practicing of "worldly" holidays has nothing to do with right or wrong. As a cult it is all about separating us from the world, making the members feel different from everyone else. It is to do with mind control. Read any book on cults and it will explain this. I remember growing up feeling I did not fit into society and this was deliberate.
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Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?
by stuckinarut2 inso witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
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Trump is a funny guy. Attacks John McCain
by James Mixon inthe guy don't realize when he attack john mccain he alienated every men .
and women who served in the military.
and this is coming from a guy that.
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William Penwell
It's surprising, most people I talk too about Trump say this, " yes he
is a screw ball but some of the things he speaks about I agree".
Toughing up on immigration or immigration reform is something that a lot of people would support. So even though some of his comments come across as racist, it is pressing the right buttons in some people.
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Trump is a funny guy. Attacks John McCain
by James Mixon inthe guy don't realize when he attack john mccain he alienated every men .
and women who served in the military.
and this is coming from a guy that.
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Is the Org Putting Elders in the Firing Line?
by The Searcher inin view of the conti verdict of negligence by the org, are elders who are selected by the c.o.
now in a precarious position?
"charity trustees face potential liabilities in a number of ways.
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William Penwell
If a couple of elders lose their shirt in a lawsuit over one of their decisions, the WT will be hard press to recruit any new elders. It is a double edge sword here. They can't distance themselves from the body of elders without supporting their judicial decisions and expect that more will step up to put their necks on the line. -
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Fun at The WT This Morning
by OneFingerSalute inso ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.
14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".
after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".
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William Penwell
When I was DF'd some relatives/family members "Shunned" me and some didn't. It depends on which elder you talk to. I recall my parents talked to one elder that told them they could talk to me as long as it wasn't spiritual matters but then I know there was some hardline elders that would say you can't talk to a relative no matter what. -
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Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?
by minimus init seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.
or dying.
very little pulse exists for the organization.
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William Penwell
Stay alive until 2025 has a nice ring to it-
Reminds me of some witness I knew before 1975. They were terminal ill with cancer and they would say if only I can just hang on till 1975 and be healed in the new system. Well they didn't make 1975 but it would have made no difference anyway.
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Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
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William Penwell
Like someone said above, this religion has jumped the shark in recent years. The serious religion of my youth is DEAD. This is what is in it's place....dumbed down idiotic nonsense. At least the Oracle Fred Franz's stuff wanted you to think and examine things.
I have to agree with you. Even though the 1960 publications were made up fiction by Fred Franz, they at least made you think a bit. I know that in the last few years when I was still married to a dub and had a bit of contact with organization, the literature just seemed to be getting more and more dumbed down
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Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
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JWism retaking control of wife's family
by The JHWH ina situation regarding this religion has developed which i fear might have negative implications on me and wifes lives, and i'm looking for thoughts and advice in how to approach the situation.
i'll start with some background information to enlighten the situation.. i'm a male in mid-twenties, raised secularly, married to an ex-jw woman (on paper still a jw though), who's been raised in the jw religion, although somewhat untheocratically shall i say.
for instance her mother has 5 children with 3 different men, all non-jws, and has had many other relationships as well.
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Disfellowshipping Image
by naazira inthis photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.
why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.
just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.
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William Penwell
Good observation. You know they must have marketing people and every little detail of this picture is deliberate. The WT is famous for putting information into pictures that only the R&F dubs get it. I remember an article where they show a young brother and an elder cut it out and posted it on the back bulletin board with hand written comments like, "see how long is sideburns are". That way if the WT is challenged they can say we don't tell our members how to dress or how to cut their hair.